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 Jul 28 2007, 06:22 PM
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Hi.
Well, to make a long story short: why is it not recommended? I'm curious why this fixpack seems to be the reason for many bugs or other problems. Because it's poorly modded? Because of the methods used to actually "fix" things? Something else? |
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Jul 30 2007, 05:02 PM
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Sikret:
As a slightly offtopicness, but does the alignment changing aspect of the fixpack and oversight, and a couple of other mods most likely affect spells that are targetted/affect certain alignments and not others? If the effect of alignments is significant enough to make a mod that changes as one of the components (possibly among others) them incompatible, then wouldn't it be better to manually set the alignments of the NPCs that you want to be set a certain way, and then you won't have to worry about the scripts not working correctly? As I understand it, IA is supposed to be installed last, so it should be fairly simple to make a list and patch them to your preference. Otherwise, you end up with a situation where Holy Smite doesn't work on Irenicus in the final battle, because he's still using the Elminster template and is a chaotic good human. This post has been edited by Caedwyr: Jul 30 2007, 06:39 PM |
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Aug 5 2007, 11:44 AM
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 The Tactician  Distinguished Developer Posts: 7794 Joined: 1-December 05 |
I opened the topic again temporarily just to make an important remark. Caedwyr wrote:
QUOTE(Caedwyr @ Jul 30 2007, 09:32 PM)  Otherwise, you end up with a situation where Holy Smite doesn't work on Irenicus in the final battle, because he's still using the Elminster template and is a chaotic good human. This example has been repeated by defenders of BG2 fixpack countless times (as an advantage over Baldurdash fixpack) and it seems to be their best example. The interesting thing, however, is that this example has all along been a false claim. Irenicus at tree of life battle has always been "Neutral Evil" even in a vanilla game plus BD fixpack installation! One of Irenicus's other files is flagged as chaotic good, but you never confront that particular creature in any battle in the game. This post has been edited by Sikret: Aug 5 2007, 12:24 PM -------------------- Improved Anvil
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Arkain The dreaded G3 Fixpack Jul 28 2007, 06:22 PM
Magnus_025 I don't know the whole bunch of reasons becaus... Jul 28 2007, 10:34 PM jastey I would recommend also posing this question in the... Jul 28 2007, 10:35 PM Arkain @Magus_025
I'm asking out of curiosity, not be... Jul 29 2007, 12:40 AM cmorgan Regardless of reason, if a modder states he is des... Jul 29 2007, 02:07 AM Baronius We have our reasons, indeed. I really don't kn... Jul 29 2007, 03:35 AM Sikret Hi.
Well, to make a long story short: why is it n... Jul 29 2007, 10:42 AM
jastey Sikret, your post is exactly what I meant with ... Jul 29 2007, 11:41 AM Sikret Sikret, your post is exactly what I meant with ... Jul 29 2007, 11:53 AM Baronius
I'm sorry about that jastey, but if you unde... Jul 29 2007, 04:29 PM lroumen The problem is that many mods are just aging, wher... Jul 29 2007, 07:04 PM Sikret The problem is that many mods are just aging, wher... Jul 30 2007, 12:48 PM Baronius Iroumen, you got the point. What you listed are di... Jul 29 2007, 07:37 PM lroumen (Remember Symbol of Amaunator. Isn't it a part... Jul 29 2007, 08:30 PM Baronius On a side note:
http://forums.gibberlings3.net/in... Jul 29 2007, 08:29 PM Baronius Thanks for pointing out. I'll use this opportu... Jul 29 2007, 08:50 PM Baronius By the way, the latest daily news, the (non-beta... Jul 29 2007, 09:19 PM luan I didn't know there was so much drama behind t... Jul 29 2007, 11:46 PM Caedwyr I definately have to second Baronius here. I... Jul 30 2007, 05:04 AM Sikret If the effect of alignments is significant enough ... Jul 31 2007, 05:36 AM Baronius Caedwyr:
Of course the question was directed to S... Jul 30 2007, 05:50 PM Caedwyr You misunderstand me. From what Sikret wrote, I t... Jul 30 2007, 06:20 PM berelinde I was just about to post the I *HATE* this fix... Jul 30 2007, 06:27 PM Baronius You still don't get it. ALL such changes shoul... Jul 30 2007, 06:59 PM luan It is reasonable to expect modders to ensure compa... Jul 30 2007, 07:47 PM Baronius
Exactly. FP creators could say: but fixpack's... Jul 30 2007, 07:54 PM Sikret One more point which is worth mentioning is that p... Jul 31 2007, 06:44 AM Januszka Not my business, but who cares anyway? If you dont... Jul 31 2007, 08:23 AM Sikret Not my business, but who cares anyway? If you dont... Jul 31 2007, 08:34 AM |
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