Imoen's dialogue lines, which relate to thieving Options

[Sikret]

Hi, all

Since Imoen is going to change to a sorceress, I want to change all of her dialogue lines in the vanilla game in which she probably refers to herself as a thief or talks about own thieving skills. If you know when and where she has some such lines in the game let me know. If you can also send me the exact wordings of what she says in each case, you will save much of my time and will help me release the mod sooner.

Thanks in advance

EDIT: Of course, I don't expect one single person to find and send all those lines to me. If you can remember even one dialogue in which Imoen refers to herself as thief, don't hesitate to send it. I can perform a search in an editor, but I may easily miss some of the lines if I use the wrong searching key words to detect each of them.

This post has been edited by Sikret: Jul 25 2007, 12:41 PM

[Magnus_025]

I agree with some redistribution of her stars, but changing her so much is totally changing her. She will no longer be Imoen. Besides, her class change is somewhat due to the experiments Irenicus has been doing with her, no? So, why just change her class and add her new ability? Changing her stats so drastically does not feel good.

I know that Wish spell is almost vital in IA (refreshing spells) but why don't use potions? Even if you have erased some potions there may be a few, no?

My opinion is to leave her as she is in terms of stats. But if you are completely decided to change them at least leave them more or less like:

STR: 9
DEX:18 - 17
CON:16
INT:15
WIS:14 - 15
CHA:14

With these stats she can have more chances to make the wish correctly, no? (and even if the chance of failure is high it's just more challenge, no?) The lose of INT and CHA can be justificated because of she being less jovial and childlish after what she has went through (yes, the lose of INT can't be that easily justificated in that way), and the more points in WIS can be gained because of that same experience.

Another thing you can do is change the two more points she gets in ToB because of the growing taint in her. In the Vanilla game she gains 1 STR and 1 DEX. You can put them in WIS if you wish.

Just a question: Will she be a sorceress from the very beginning or will she still be a thief/mage in Irenicus Dungeon and change in Spellhold? And, given the case, could we, players change her class again to thief/mage without screwing everything up with SK?

This post has been edited by Magnus_025: Aug 1 2007, 05:52 PM

[lroumen]

With these stats she can have more chances to make the wish correctly, no? (and even if the chance of failure is high it's just more challenge, no?) The lose of INT and CHA can be justificated because of she being less jovial and childlish after what she has went through (yes, the lose of INT can't be that easily justificated in that way), and the more points in WIS can be gained because of that same experience.

Another thing you can do is change the two more points she gets in ToB because of the growing taint in her. In the Vanilla game she gains 1 STR and 1 DEX. You can put them in WIS if you wish.

Just a question: Will she be a sorceress from the very beginning or will she still be a thief/mage in Irenicus Dungeon and change in Spellhold? And, given the case, could we, players change her class again to thief/mage without screwing everything up with SK?

Ah, that's actually not a bad idea.

1- You can keep her Thief/Mage in Irenicus' Dungeon with her normal stats. People can use her in the starting Dungeon without problems.
2- When you party up with her again in Spellhold you can change her into a Sorceress with the same original Imoen stats.
Then after joining up you can add a simple banter about how Irenicus tortured her and how she learnt things about the Taint, finalising the banter in a little experience gain (probably related to the party level difference) and a respectful increase in Wisdom. You can raise it to 18 if you like and maybe if you want a stat drain on something like charisma (though not too much, she can have a net-gain in stat-score being a Child of Bhaal). That should then reflect the wisdom she earned about the Taint when she was being tortured and how much her mood swung around to something less joyful.
Finally to make the whole picture complete, add the random Innate spell ability after the banter as a "Irenicus awoke my magic capabilities and some unknown ability within me, help me find out what it does" and we're done.

That would explain everything quite nicely. It can explain the profession change, the stat change and the innate ability gain.... as well as the experience gain.




Btw, I forgot that Sikret removed the wisdom potions, but then it means that no NPC can actually use the Wish spell correctly, so now I understand why a party would benefit so much from the Imoen wisdom stat increase if the Protagonist isn't a mage. Simply because the Wish spell is then largely useless. Kind of a pity though, that no NPC can use Wish very well. I had only used it as a protagonist mage myself, I forgot about it.

This post has been edited by lroumen: Aug 1 2007, 08:51 PM