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> Imoen's dialogue lines, which relate to thieving
Sikret
post Jul 25 2007, 12:10 PM
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Hi, all

Since Imoen is going to change to a sorceress, I want to change all of her dialogue lines in the vanilla game in which she probably refers to herself as a thief or talks about own thieving skills. If you know when and where she has some such lines in the game let me know. If you can also send me the exact wordings of what she says in each case, you will save much of my time and will help me release the mod sooner.

Thanks in advance

EDIT: Of course, I don't expect one single person to find and send all those lines to me. If you can remember even one dialogue in which Imoen refers to herself as thief, don't hesitate to send it. I can perform a search in an editor, but I may easily miss some of the lines if I use the wrong searching key words to detect each of them.

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Magnus_025
post Aug 1 2007, 05:47 PM
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I agree with some redistribution of her stars, but changing her so much is totally changing her. She will no longer be Imoen. Besides, her class change is somewhat due to the experiments Irenicus has been doing with her, no? So, why just change her class and add her new ability? Changing her stats so drastically does not feel good.

I know that Wish spell is almost vital in IA (refreshing spells) but why don't use potions? Even if you have erased some potions there may be a few, no?

My opinion is to leave her as she is in terms of stats. But if you are completely decided to change them at least leave them more or less like:

STR: 9
DEX:18 - 17
CON:16
INT:15
WIS:14 - 15
CHA:14

With these stats she can have more chances to make the wish correctly, no? (and even if the chance of failure is high it's just more challenge, no?) The lose of INT and CHA can be justificated because of she being less jovial and childlish after what she has went through (yes, the lose of INT can't be that easily justificated in that way), and the more points in WIS can be gained because of that same experience.

Another thing you can do is change the two more points she gets in ToB because of the growing taint in her. In the Vanilla game she gains 1 STR and 1 DEX. You can put them in WIS if you wish.

Just a question: Will she be a sorceress from the very beginning or will she still be a thief/mage in Irenicus Dungeon and change in Spellhold? And, given the case, could we, players change her class again to thief/mage without screwing everything up with SK?

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Sikret   Imoen's dialogue lines   Jul 25 2007, 12:10 PM
aVENGER   In ToB, Imoen has a banter with Keldorn where she ...   Jul 25 2007, 01:08 PM
Sikret   Thanks a million, aVENGER! Since Keldorn...   Jul 25 2007, 01:39 PM
thetruth   Sikret download the NPC Interactions Guide by Dave...   Jul 25 2007, 03:41 PM
berelinde   How will this change be implemented? I'm not a...   Jul 26 2007, 11:58 AM
Sikret   @thetruth Thank you so very much for the link. @b...   Jul 26 2007, 02:42 PM
berelinde   Conceptual incompatibilities don't worry me, o...   Jul 26 2007, 03:44 PM
Magnus_025   I believe that concerning to Imoen's dialog th...   Jul 31 2007, 09:27 AM
Sikret   Thanks, Magnus! I have performed a through se...   Jul 31 2007, 09:33 AM
Magnus_025   Glad to help! Unfortunately I can't do th...   Jul 31 2007, 09:48 AM
Sikret   If you can at least give the exact wording, I will...   Jul 31 2007, 10:34 AM
lroumen   The cookie conversation isn't really related t...   Aug 1 2007, 07:38 AM
Magnus_025   It seems that I was mistaken then. Thanks for find...   Aug 1 2007, 09:29 AM
lroumen   Well, you weren't completely mistaken there :...   Aug 1 2007, 09:53 AM
Sikret   The changes I have so far applied (in addition to ...   Aug 1 2007, 10:22 AM
luan   4-Imoen to Protagonist Just an idea: ---- 5- Imoe...   Aug 1 2007, 01:58 PM
Sikret   Thank you, luan! As you suggested, I'll a...   Aug 1 2007, 02:10 PM
lroumen   "the" is redundant in this sentence. You...   Aug 1 2007, 02:23 PM
Sikret   Thanks for the grammatical point about the redunda...   Aug 1 2007, 02:55 PM
luan   I don't view charisma so much as only personal...   Aug 1 2007, 02:59 PM
lroumen   Ah yes, there's also the persuasion part of ch...   Aug 1 2007, 03:15 PM
Raven   Sikret, IMO a Str 17 is not particularly useful fo...   Aug 1 2007, 03:15 PM
lroumen   Sikret, IMO a Str 17 is not particularly useful fo...   Aug 1 2007, 03:19 PM
Sikret   Sikret, IMO a Str 17 is not particularly useful fo...   Aug 1 2007, 03:27 PM
Raven   I agree with Iroumen's stat distribution but I...   Aug 1 2007, 05:07 PM
kulyok   If you're changing her so much, maybe it's...   Aug 1 2007, 03:16 PM
lroumen   Something like: Strength: 9 Dexterity: 18 Cons...   Aug 1 2007, 03:33 PM
Arkain   Sorcerers are mage types. She should be able to us...   Aug 1 2007, 03:53 PM
Magnus_025   I agree with some redistribution of her stars, but...   Aug 1 2007, 05:47 PM
lroumen   With these stats she can have more chances to make...   Aug 1 2007, 08:44 PM
Ardanis   IIRC IA removes those potions. Or, to be more prec...   Aug 1 2007, 06:05 PM
Clown   I quite agree with this sentiment, have loved ev...   Aug 1 2007, 07:21 PM
luan   Just want to say I like Iroumen or Raven's pro...   Aug 1 2007, 08:24 PM
Raven   @ Magnus, Iroumen Just to clarify, Sikret's o...   Aug 1 2007, 09:22 PM
Sikret   Thanks for the comments, everyone! I assure y...   Aug 2 2007, 07:52 AM
Magnus_025   I understand that your desire of giving her a STR ...   Aug 2 2007, 08:52 AM
Arkain   [...] By the way, CHA is the prime requisite for S...   Aug 2 2007, 07:12 PM
lroumen   @Raven & Sikret. I knew that she would only c...   Aug 2 2007, 11:12 AM
Sikret   Just some quick replies: @Magnus: 1- Aerie can...   Aug 2 2007, 02:10 PM
lroumen   Okay, that's all fair enough. I'm looking ...   Aug 2 2007, 03:31 PM
Ardanis   To turn bright nice Imoen into a grunt with the he...   Aug 2 2007, 07:18 PM
Providence   To turn bright nice Imoen into a grunt with the he...   Aug 2 2007, 09:21 PM
Raven   To turn bright nice Imoen into a grunt with the he...   Aug 3 2007, 10:47 AM
Providence   Nobody is saying you have to use Imoen that way. I...   Aug 3 2007, 10:56 AM
Magnus_025   @Sikret: Ok! So I will not fear to awake your ...   Aug 2 2007, 08:20 PM
lroumen   And you can always change her back in your own gam...   Aug 3 2007, 11:04 AM
Providence   And you can always change her back in your own gam...   Aug 3 2007, 11:24 AM
Baronius   I can't find it in this thread, what are the f...   Aug 3 2007, 11:32 AM
lroumen   Imoen Vanilla BG2: Strength: 9 Dexterity: 18 Const...   Aug 3 2007, 12:07 PM
Magnus_025   An idea from me? Whoah, I'm actually doing som...   Aug 3 2007, 12:13 PM
Baronius   I agree, higher charisma (14) and intelligence of...   Aug 3 2007, 12:36 PM
Sikret   1- Role playing has little to do with "stats...   Aug 4 2007, 12:58 PM
lroumen   An INT score of 9-12 equals the normal IQ of 100. ...   Aug 5 2007, 09:26 AM


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