The dreaded G3 Fixpack Options

[Arkain]

Hi.

Well, to make a long story short: why is it not recommended? I'm curious why this fixpack seems to be the reason for many bugs or other problems. Because it's poorly modded? Because of the methods used to actually "fix" things? Something else?

[Baronius]

It is reasonable to expect modders to ensure compatibility with the original game.

Exactly. FP creators could say: but fixpack's core component fixes BUGS, so the modder doesn't have to, and a more seamless "surface" awaits his/her mod. Really nice, but this applies to bugs such as broken items & spells and explicitly incorrect things, and not to changes on (otherwise non-buggy) elements such as consumed items, replaced alignments etc. Here is the problem: some of the ambigious novelties (such as alignment changes) are judged differently by each modder and player. Expecting all modders to come to the fixpack forum to tell their doubts (without the guarantee of any change) OR expecting them to read the thousands of lines of the FP core component documentation and THEN *learning* how to negate those with their mod, is this fair? Remember, we're talking of the mandatory core component.

Luan's very good post inspired me to write a nice very short summary: G3FP main developers who decide what goes to the core component go too far by overriding such original game elements that are not explicit, harmful bugs, and add them to the mandatory core component. In other words, based on what luan said: they override the compatibility of the original game, dictating *new* conditions to modders. Overriding the *original* conditions dictated/offered by the *original* game. What if 75% of players agree with a subjective FP change? The other 25 does not. As a general guideline in many areas of life: let's respect the minority, if the result is indifferent, neutral for the majority.