The dreaded G3 Fixpack Options

[Arkain]

Hi.

Well, to make a long story short: why is it not recommended? I'm curious why this fixpack seems to be the reason for many bugs or other problems. Because it's poorly modded? Because of the methods used to actually "fix" things? Something else?

[Baronius]

Caedwyr:

Of course the question was directed to Sikret, I don't want to answer instead of him. I can only answer from my viewpoint: it's a quick treatment of the symptoms, to make the alignments re-fixed in IA. Although it's a lot of alignments to check and change (even if we keep the "reasonable" ones), let's assume Sikret does it. But what about the many other similar things? As you see, all other changed content (such as the consumed keys case where you agree with me) may cause unpredictible effects for other mods, due to the possible dependencies. Or are Consumed Keys and Alignment Changes the only "fixes" that affect non-buggy elements, and thus may break future mods? (Additional question: if the approach doesn't change, who guarantees that G3FP main developers don't add more such components as Consumed Keys? These directly remove elements that may be used by other mods! How can the G3 FP be supported if we are unsure about future? More accurately, quite sure, unfortunately. The more removed interfaces and changed original elements, the higher risk to break mods.)

The point is, Irenicus as a Chaotic Good may look weird, but as we can see, other changes are not so unambigious. The conclusion is, a modder who fixes a game in a standard fixpack should add problematic cases to optional components, because it's not his/her right to decide who should have what alignment. (Optional components are still inadequate though, especially without proper warnings. A different file is needed.) The Irenicus case may be reasonable, but what about the others? "Reasonable" means something slightly different for everyone, in each particular case. (See Blucher's thoughts with the Majordomo.) A person who fixes can fix a broken item, a buggy 0gp price, but it may not apply quasi-fixes in CORE components!