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Arkain
post Jul 28 2007, 06:22 PM
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Hi.

Well, to make a long story short: why is it not recommended? I'm curious why this fixpack seems to be the reason for many bugs or other problems. Because it's poorly modded? Because of the methods used to actually "fix" things? Something else?
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Baronius
post Jul 29 2007, 08:50 PM
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Thanks for pointing out. I'll use this opportunity to give more details to those who're interested in the theory (though I guess it's already clear to most readers):

Symbol of Amaunator is a game element. It's a dependency of Item Upgrade and Improved Anvil. Since it got consumed, this caused incompatibility: it's one item, can't be used twice. So IA and IU are incompatible. It's natural, because they are two mods, of the same type. A standard fixpack can not allow such a luxury. If it removes this item*, the dependency of IU and IA will have its well-known consequences, as we know.

*as G3FP did in its earlier version -- and the reason of its remove even wasn't the dependency problem !


Again, though I told it many times already, but I want everyone to understand it: it's possible to include a fix in IU and IA. (Assuming IU is supported, which isn't entirely true to my knowledge. Let's ignore this fact.) However, there will be more and more symbols of amaunators, and no one should expect 77 other modders to read the fixpack readme thoroughly and fix fixpack's fixes, or release a mod which quality they cannot guarantee. (It's not about just one upgrade. Whole mods can be broken. Remember ToD and UB.)


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Arkain   The dreaded G3 Fixpack   Jul 28 2007, 06:22 PM
Magnus_025   I don't know the whole bunch of reasons becaus...   Jul 28 2007, 10:34 PM
jastey   I would recommend also posing this question in the...   Jul 28 2007, 10:35 PM
Arkain   @Magus_025 I'm asking out of curiosity, not be...   Jul 29 2007, 12:40 AM
cmorgan   Regardless of reason, if a modder states he is des...   Jul 29 2007, 02:07 AM
Baronius   We have our reasons, indeed. I really don't kn...   Jul 29 2007, 03:35 AM
Sikret   Hi. Well, to make a long story short: why is it n...   Jul 29 2007, 10:42 AM
jastey   Sikret, your post is exactly what I meant with ...   Jul 29 2007, 11:41 AM
Sikret   Sikret, your post is exactly what I meant with ...   Jul 29 2007, 11:53 AM
Baronius   I'm sorry about that jastey, but if you unde...   Jul 29 2007, 04:29 PM
lroumen   The problem is that many mods are just aging, wher...   Jul 29 2007, 07:04 PM
Sikret   The problem is that many mods are just aging, wher...   Jul 30 2007, 12:48 PM
Baronius   Iroumen, you got the point. What you listed are di...   Jul 29 2007, 07:37 PM
lroumen   (Remember Symbol of Amaunator. Isn't it a part...   Jul 29 2007, 08:30 PM
Baronius   On a side note: http://forums.gibberlings3.net/in...   Jul 29 2007, 08:29 PM
Baronius   Thanks for pointing out. I'll use this opportu...   Jul 29 2007, 08:50 PM
Baronius   By the way, the latest daily news, the (non-beta...   Jul 29 2007, 09:19 PM
luan   I didn't know there was so much drama behind t...   Jul 29 2007, 11:46 PM
Caedwyr   I definately have to second Baronius here. I...   Jul 30 2007, 05:04 AM
Caedwyr   Sikret: As a slightly offtopicness, but does the ...   Jul 30 2007, 05:02 PM
Sikret   If the effect of alignments is significant enough ...   Jul 31 2007, 05:36 AM
Sikret   I opened the topic again temporarily just to make ...   Aug 5 2007, 11:44 AM
Baronius   Caedwyr: Of course the question was directed to S...   Jul 30 2007, 05:50 PM
Caedwyr   You misunderstand me. From what Sikret wrote, I t...   Jul 30 2007, 06:20 PM
berelinde   I was just about to post the I *HATE* this fix...   Jul 30 2007, 06:27 PM
Baronius   You still don't get it. ALL such changes shoul...   Jul 30 2007, 06:59 PM
luan   It is reasonable to expect modders to ensure compa...   Jul 30 2007, 07:47 PM
Baronius   Exactly. FP creators could say: but fixpack's...   Jul 30 2007, 07:54 PM
Sikret   One more point which is worth mentioning is that p...   Jul 31 2007, 06:44 AM
Januszka   Not my business, but who cares anyway? If you dont...   Jul 31 2007, 08:23 AM
Sikret   Not my business, but who cares anyway? If you dont...   Jul 31 2007, 08:34 AM


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