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nataben1314
post Mar 4 2007, 08:59 AM
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It seems as though, judging from another and not having actually played the mod yet (waiting for v4), that mages are now in a situation where they are used almost totally for dispelling, immuning other characters, and creating summons. Would those in the know (esp. sikret/thetruth) agree with that? I'm not trying to imply that this is necessarily a negative if true, I'm just interested for the sake of future spell and party selection smile.gif

Speaking of party selection, do you think I'd be making things too hard for myself to make a party of single-class characters? I've always disliked multiclasses unless soloing, and am not too keen on having a party full of five fighter/x's and one ranger/cleric.

And on difficulty, I wonder if it would be possible to make a rough difficulty guide for the quests of chapters 2 and/or 6? What I envision is something like e.g. "windspear hills: level 9-13 minimum" or whatever. With all the new content its difficult for me to know which are the easier quests and which are the ones best left to chapter 6. And for a player of my (low) skill level, it is difficult to determine if you are losing a fight due to wrong tactics, or due to the fact that you're simply too low of a level for that fight. So a general quest difficulty guide (at least for chapters 2/6 where the game is not very linear, and maybe a minimum avg. level before going off to spellhold) would likely save me much frustration and/or lots of me making HELP threads tongue.gif

thanks, and I can't wait until v4.
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thetruth
post Apr 20 2007, 04:03 PM
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@nataben1314

First of all I don't have much experience with weapons and items of IA because I had decided to not use any of them during my game (just for the challenge - they are not overpowered for IA).

- I agree with Sikret that the F/M should use long-swords (probably the best weapon type in IA) since he will be your main tank for most of the game and it is good to be as effective as possible offensively.
So long swords and 3* in dual-wielding for him.

Later give him 2* in Scimitars (Belm) and another 2* in a weapon that does crushing dmg.
Try to specialize all of your characters later in weapons which do crushing dmg.
You will need them wink.gif .


- For the Swashbuckler I would give him 2* in short-swords for the Kundane (off-hand), 3* in dualwielding and another 2* in Long-swords again or Katanas for your main weapon.
After UAI specialize him in Scimitars for the Scarlet.


- Your Inquisitor could specialize, along with 2-handed swords, in Hammers as Sikret said. And better if you give him 3* in dual-wielding later.
Many ApR help much in IA.

- For your B-M you could go with G.Mastery in Axes if you want. There are some good axes early in the game.



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Who is going to use a powerful shield (ex: Supreme Shelter) with a good plate armor to have a good AC in your party?


He could give it to the Swashbuckler after UAI.
The Swashbuckler doesn't need stealth so it won't be a problem if he wears heavy armor.

Generally in the difficult battles of IA good AC is not so useful that's why a F/M is so effective with his buffs.
But the Swashbuckler's insane AC is an exception. -24 AC (with Plate Mail and Shield) will be very effective against most enemies of IA - even in ToB.


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Might as well ask this as well. thetruth, you stated the f/m is potentially the most powerful class in IA. Could you give some tips on spell selection, weapons etc?



He is so powerful because at the same time he can fight well and can stay in the front line longer than other characters (buffs).

A Berserker-Mage (21-22) is even more powerful (with the True G.Mastery patch), but not the ideal dual-class for a party and soloing is extremely difficult in IA.

For Spells a very good combo against the enemies of IA, who use very effectively protection Removal spells, is the following:

SI: Abjuration + Spell Trap + Spell Shield (at high levels or from SotMagi)

and then the usual Stoneskin + Mirror Image + PfMWs and if needed PfMEnergy, Elemental protection, Fireshields etc..
Of course don't forget Improved Haste wink.gif (in ToB levels combine it with C.Strikes , P.Attacks, Smite).

With a little micromanagement you can renew your buffs during the fight (mainly the SI which will prevent dispelling of your buffs).

About weapons my favourite is the Flail of the Ages for the main hand.
In IA unfortunately it has been nerfed (though it's still a very good weapon), so I would go with Long Swords (dual wielding of course).
And don't forget to give him prof. points in a weapon that does crushing dmg..

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nataben1314   Misc. Questions on Difficulty, Party Composition, and Spell Selection   Mar 4 2007, 08:59 AM
thetruth   This is not entirely true. They are still effec...   Mar 4 2007, 10:57 AM
Sikret   Hi, nataben! I believe that the answer to som...   Mar 4 2007, 11:17 AM
Demivrgvs   Why did you recommended not to choose an archer? I...   Mar 5 2007, 07:31 AM
rbeverjr   As my question is similar, I'll just post on t...   Mar 8 2007, 02:25 PM
thetruth   Hey a Cleric is more powerful than a Rod of Res...   Mar 9 2007, 12:13 AM
Sikret   And there aren't many enemies with immunity ...   Mar 9 2007, 12:30 AM
rbeverjr   And there aren't many enemies with immunity...   Mar 9 2007, 02:57 PM
thetruth   @ Demivrgvs Sikret will answer this, but IMO an...   Mar 9 2007, 03:57 PM
Sikret   [quote name='Sikret' post='21107' date='Mar 8 200...   Mar 10 2007, 10:02 AM
Demivrgvs   In V3 i think S!IMMUNE gave immunity to dispel...   Mar 9 2007, 12:59 PM
Sikret   In V3 i think S!IMMUNE gave immunity to dispe...   Mar 10 2007, 10:06 AM
rbeverjr   You're probably right concerning the berserker...   Mar 9 2007, 04:25 PM
Mordokai   Just a short reply to this, then I'm off to ...   Mar 9 2007, 09:19 PM
thetruth   Feel free to prove me otherwise if you feel like ...   Mar 9 2007, 09:45 PM
nataben1314   So if both backstab and archery aren't very ef...   Mar 10 2007, 07:42 PM
thetruth   So if both backstab and archery aren't very e...   Mar 10 2007, 08:18 PM
leonidas   May as well ask this here. Do triple class charact...   Mar 11 2007, 12:29 AM
Sikret   Hi, leonidas! Welcome to BWL! May as we...   Mar 11 2007, 05:21 AM
Shaitan   Just a little question to wich I guess the answer ...   Apr 11 2007, 11:05 AM
Sikret   Yes.   Apr 11 2007, 11:13 AM
Shaitan   :)   Apr 11 2007, 12:08 PM
Toxeus   Tell me please about difficulty of IA vs Tactics/B...   Apr 12 2007, 09:23 AM
Rhed   Tell me please about difficulty of IA vs Tactics/...   Apr 12 2007, 09:43 AM
Sikret   The new battles are very challenging! Whether...   Apr 12 2007, 03:11 PM
thetruth   Tell me please about difficulty of IA vs Tactics/...   Apr 12 2007, 01:31 PM
Sikret   Also personally I would recommend the use of the...   Apr 12 2007, 02:40 PM
Shaitan   Can't you bring us some insight info, such as ...   Apr 12 2007, 01:36 PM
thetruth   Can't you bring us some insight info, such as...   Apr 12 2007, 01:58 PM
Shaitan   Yes I suspect it may make the game no easier. The ...   Apr 12 2007, 02:10 PM
nataben1314   I'm back with a couple questions before I get ...   Apr 19 2007, 05:51 AM
Sikret   Note that I'm not really worried about the la...   Apr 19 2007, 07:53 AM
coaster   Seems a bit underpowered on the arcane magic front...   Apr 19 2007, 06:55 AM
thetruth   @nataben1314 First of all IIRC you don't lik...   Apr 19 2007, 04:12 PM
coaster   thetruth - yes, it is the combination of power and...   Apr 19 2007, 07:56 PM
nataben1314   sikret: excellent, thanks! I will use my R/C ...   Apr 19 2007, 10:12 PM
thetruth   What makes the f/t or swashy so good? I mean I kn...   Apr 20 2007, 02:22 AM
Mongerman   Generally, the levels to duel are lvl 7 - basic...   Apr 20 2007, 12:14 AM
nataben1314   Excellent, thanks! I think I'll go with a ...   Apr 20 2007, 02:30 AM
thetruth   Your comment about some battles being harder tha...   Apr 20 2007, 02:39 AM
nataben1314   Not all of them but let's say that the most d...   Apr 20 2007, 08:47 AM
Sikret   1. (protagonist for ranger content) ranger/cleric...   Apr 20 2007, 02:57 PM
nataben1314   (1) No.1, no.3 and no.6 are fine, IMO. Just why do...   Apr 20 2007, 03:57 PM
Mongerman   Might as well ask this as well. thetruth, you stat...   Apr 20 2007, 01:40 PM
thetruth   @nataben1314 First of all I don't have much e...   Apr 20 2007, 04:03 PM
Mongerman   Thanks for the fast reply thetruth.   Apr 20 2007, 04:21 PM
Shaitan   A new party! I'm pondering if this party ...   Apr 21 2007, 08:51 AM
Sikret   Protagonist F/M (halfelf, dual in Longswords/Flai...   Apr 21 2007, 12:59 PM
thetruth   @Shaitan Yes it is a good party. I wouldn't t...   Apr 21 2007, 11:31 AM
Shaitan   @Shaitan Yes it is a good party. I wouldn't ...   Apr 21 2007, 07:44 PM
thetruth   Ah :( Sorry guys! I remember why I don...   Apr 21 2007, 09:02 PM
Shaitan   Thanks a lot! I use Minsc as a berserker (via...   Apr 21 2007, 11:41 AM
thetruth   Ah sorry I misread. I suggested flails because, if...   Apr 21 2007, 12:42 PM
Mongerman   Sorry to hijack this thread. Sikret, I'll be s...   Apr 21 2007, 01:38 PM
thetruth   Has the long abscence from BG dulled me, or has ...   Apr 21 2007, 02:44 PM
Sikret   Sikret, I'll be starting my game tmr. Would y...   Apr 21 2007, 03:33 PM
nataben1314   wait so stealing more than like one thing from a s...   Apr 21 2007, 03:23 PM
Shaitan   So you think I can use Aerie as a competent partym...   Apr 21 2007, 09:25 PM
thetruth   Yes, Aerie with a combination of Cleric and Mage s...   Apr 21 2007, 09:36 PM
Mongerman   the truth, how is haer delis helpful? I'm thin...   Apr 23 2007, 12:19 AM
thetruth   You can use him as a F/M, if you don't have on...   Apr 23 2007, 03:46 AM
nataben1314   Update: I've started! Unfortunately, my pr...   Apr 23 2007, 05:03 AM
Shaitan   Sorry to hijack this thread! @thetruth: Have ...   Apr 24 2007, 11:51 AM
thetruth   Sorry to hijack this thread! @thetruth: Have...   Apr 24 2007, 12:42 PM
Shaitan   He! I guess I'll go for: F/I Minsc Jaheir...   Apr 24 2007, 12:49 PM
thetruth   Yes, this is an even better party for IA. ;)   Apr 24 2007, 01:26 PM
sturmvogel   I'm getting set for my first IA game and would...   May 3 2007, 03:10 AM
Toxeus   f/m is a must for IA, so may be try Xan? ;) Berse...   May 3 2007, 03:39 AM


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