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Mar 4 2007, 08:59 AM
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Forum Member Posts: 66 Joined: 14-January 07 |
It seems as though, judging from another and not having actually played the mod yet (waiting for v4), that mages are now in a situation where they are used almost totally for dispelling, immuning other characters, and creating summons. Would those in the know (esp. sikret/thetruth) agree with that? I'm not trying to imply that this is necessarily a negative if true, I'm just interested for the sake of future spell and party selection
Speaking of party selection, do you think I'd be making things too hard for myself to make a party of single-class characters? I've always disliked multiclasses unless soloing, and am not too keen on having a party full of five fighter/x's and one ranger/cleric. And on difficulty, I wonder if it would be possible to make a rough difficulty guide for the quests of chapters 2 and/or 6? What I envision is something like e.g. "windspear hills: level 9-13 minimum" or whatever. With all the new content its difficult for me to know which are the easier quests and which are the ones best left to chapter 6. And for a player of my (low) skill level, it is difficult to determine if you are losing a fight due to wrong tactics, or due to the fact that you're simply too low of a level for that fight. So a general quest difficulty guide (at least for chapters 2/6 where the game is not very linear, and maybe a minimum avg. level before going off to spellhold) would likely save me much frustration and/or lots of me making HELP threads thanks, and I can't wait until v4. |
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Apr 20 2007, 02:30 AM
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Forum Member Posts: 66 Joined: 14-January 07 |
Excellent, thanks! I think I'll go with a Swashie, because I prefer single class and I have never tried one before.
Be prepared for a "HELP ME!!!!" thread or two over the next few months |
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Apr 20 2007, 02:39 AM
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Retired team member Tactical reputation: 2 Posts: 177 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Greece |
Your comment about some battles being harder than ascension on insane is really scary! Does that include oversight's improved sendai on insane, and the final battle of ascension on insane?? Not all of them but let's say that the most difficult battles of IA are at the level of Ascesnion on insane. Improved Sendai is not so difficult on insane if you have a party. Well at least less difficult than soloing it with some classes |
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Apr 20 2007, 08:47 AM
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Forum Member Posts: 66 Joined: 14-January 07 |
Not all of them but let's say that the most difficult battles of IA are at the level of Ascesnion on insane. Well, I guess there's no time like the present to learn true BG2 tactics lol. The hardest thing I'll have beaten up until starting IA will be like improved tor'gal from tactics with a solo blade... so this will be a whole new experience! Improved Sendai is not so difficult on insane if you have a party. Well at least less difficult than soloing it with some classes I think the definition of "difficult" for the most tactically advanced BG2 player out there is a lot different than my definition of difficult! So (to everyone), this is what it looks like my party will be. Any final comments/tweaks/suggestions on ways to make it better? When I say better, I mean better in the sense of being able to make it through IA with the least difficulty, not necessarily the most powerful when all is said and done at the end of ToB: 1. (protagonist for ranger content) ranger/cleric multiclass (flails/clubs) 2. Berserker, dualed to mage at level 7. (katana/scimitar) 3. Auramaster (possibly Cernd) (druid staffs [stuff that helps casting], slings) 4. Fighter/Mage multiclass (staff) 5. Swashbuckler (longsword/katana) 6. Inquisitor (two handed sword) And is there anything special about IA with regard to what proficiencies to pick, or should I just go about proficiencies as if I am playing through a regular game? I know about the item list in the readme but its hard for me to tell which of those items are available in early to mid game and which wont be available until the end of ToB where that type of thing doesn't matter as much anymore. Sorry for so many questions, you guys are probably all thinking "this guy doesn't have a friggen chance, he can't even make a party". |
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Apr 20 2007, 02:57 PM
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The Tactician ![]() Distinguished Developer Posts: 7794 Joined: 1-December 05 |
1. (protagonist for ranger content) ranger/cleric multiclass (flails/clubs) 2. Berserker, dualed to mage at level 7. (katana/scimitar) 3. Auramaster (possibly Cernd) (druid staffs [stuff that helps casting], slings) 4. Fighter/Mage multiclass (staff) 5. Swashbuckler (longsword/katana) 6. Inquisitor (two handed sword) (1) No.1, no.3 and no.6 are fine, IMO. Just why don't you add war hammer to the list of weapons for your Ranger/Cleric either? (2) Why do you give the staff to your F/M instead of your B-M? Your main mage will be the B-M after all. I think you can give the proficiency of Long Sword to you F/M. (3) You will find good katanas but not excellent ones during the game. Why have you concentrated on katanas so much? Even Celestial Fury is nerfed and it will be probably consumed as an ingredient to forge an excellent war hammer in the long term. (4) Who is going to use a powerful shield (ex: Supreme Shelter) with a good plate armor to have a good AC in your party? Noone? The inquisitor is going to use two handed swords which means he won't wield a shield and your protagonist being a ranger will most likely dual wield and will fight with two weapons. You won't have any character with excellent AC, I guess. Playing styles are different for sure and the game can be done with most of those different styles. IT's true that in most cases, protective spells such as pfmw and stoneskins can compensate low AC in a good way; nonetheless, if I were you, I would choose one of my characters to use shield and one weapon (instead of dual wielding), and a good plate armor. In the middle stages of the game in SOA, a character with good AC will be a great advantage. If I were you, I would probably dual my Swashbuckler to a mage (instead of my Berserker). I would leave the Berserker to continue in his class and would give him good armor and shield. But on other hand, thetruth has good arguments for having a high level single class Swashbuckler. I don't know. Play it in the way you prefer and just let us know about your progress. The good thing about this game is that it can be played in a wide range of different methods and styles. -------------------- Improved Anvil
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nataben1314 Misc. Questions on Difficulty, Party Composition, and Spell Selection Mar 4 2007, 08:59 AM
thetruth
This is not entirely true.
They are still effec... Mar 4 2007, 10:57 AM
Sikret Hi, nataben!
I believe that the answer to som... Mar 4 2007, 11:17 AM
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rbeverjr As my question is similar, I'll just post on t... Mar 8 2007, 02:25 PM
thetruth
Hey a Cleric is more powerful than a Rod of Res... Mar 9 2007, 12:13 AM
Sikret
And there aren't many enemies with immunity ... Mar 9 2007, 12:30 AM
rbeverjr
And there aren't many enemies with immunity... Mar 9 2007, 02:57 PM
thetruth @ Demivrgvs
Sikret will answer this, but IMO an... Mar 9 2007, 03:57 PM
Sikret [quote name='Sikret' post='21107' date='Mar 8 200... Mar 10 2007, 10:02 AM
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Sikret In V3 i think S!IMMUNE gave immunity to dispe... Mar 10 2007, 10:06 AM
rbeverjr You're probably right concerning the berserker... Mar 9 2007, 04:25 PM
Mordokai
Just a short reply to this, then I'm off to ... Mar 9 2007, 09:19 PM
thetruth
Feel free to prove me otherwise if you feel like ... Mar 9 2007, 09:45 PM
nataben1314 So if both backstab and archery aren't very ef... Mar 10 2007, 07:42 PM
thetruth
So if both backstab and archery aren't very e... Mar 10 2007, 08:18 PM
leonidas May as well ask this here. Do triple class charact... Mar 11 2007, 12:29 AM
Sikret Hi, leonidas!
Welcome to BWL!
May as we... Mar 11 2007, 05:21 AM
Shaitan Just a little question to wich I guess the answer ... Apr 11 2007, 11:05 AM
Sikret Yes. Apr 11 2007, 11:13 AM
Shaitan :) Apr 11 2007, 12:08 PM
Toxeus Tell me please about difficulty of IA vs Tactics/B... Apr 12 2007, 09:23 AM
Rhed
Tell me please about difficulty of IA vs Tactics/... Apr 12 2007, 09:43 AM

Sikret
The new battles are very challenging! Whether... Apr 12 2007, 03:11 PM
thetruth
Tell me please about difficulty of IA vs Tactics/... Apr 12 2007, 01:31 PM
Sikret
Also personally I would recommend the use of the... Apr 12 2007, 02:40 PM
Shaitan Can't you bring us some insight info, such as ... Apr 12 2007, 01:36 PM
thetruth
Can't you bring us some insight info, such as... Apr 12 2007, 01:58 PM
Shaitan Yes I suspect it may make the game no easier. The ... Apr 12 2007, 02:10 PM
nataben1314 I'm back with a couple questions before I get ... Apr 19 2007, 05:51 AM
Sikret Note that I'm not really worried about the la... Apr 19 2007, 07:53 AM
coaster Seems a bit underpowered on the arcane magic front... Apr 19 2007, 06:55 AM
thetruth @nataben1314
First of all IIRC you don't lik... Apr 19 2007, 04:12 PM
coaster thetruth - yes, it is the combination of power and... Apr 19 2007, 07:56 PM
nataben1314 sikret:
excellent, thanks! I will use my R/C ... Apr 19 2007, 10:12 PM
thetruth
What makes the f/t or swashy so good? I mean I kn... Apr 20 2007, 02:22 AM
Mongerman Generally, the levels to duel are
lvl 7 - basic... Apr 20 2007, 12:14 AM
nataben1314 (1) No.1, no.3 and no.6 are fine, IMO. Just why do... Apr 20 2007, 03:57 PM
Mongerman Might as well ask this as well. thetruth, you stat... Apr 20 2007, 01:40 PM
thetruth @nataben1314
First of all I don't have much e... Apr 20 2007, 04:03 PM
Mongerman Thanks for the fast reply thetruth. Apr 20 2007, 04:21 PM
Shaitan A new party!
I'm pondering if this party ... Apr 21 2007, 08:51 AM
Sikret Protagonist F/M (halfelf, dual in Longswords/Flai... Apr 21 2007, 12:59 PM
thetruth @Shaitan
Yes it is a good party.
I wouldn't t... Apr 21 2007, 11:31 AM
Shaitan
@Shaitan
Yes it is a good party.
I wouldn't ... Apr 21 2007, 07:44 PM
thetruth
Ah :( Sorry guys! I remember why I don... Apr 21 2007, 09:02 PM
Shaitan Thanks a lot!
I use Minsc as a berserker (via... Apr 21 2007, 11:41 AM
thetruth Ah sorry I misread. I suggested flails because, if... Apr 21 2007, 12:42 PM
Mongerman Sorry to hijack this thread. Sikret, I'll be s... Apr 21 2007, 01:38 PM
thetruth
Has the long abscence from BG dulled me, or has ... Apr 21 2007, 02:44 PM
Sikret Sikret, I'll be starting my game tmr. Would y... Apr 21 2007, 03:33 PM
nataben1314 wait so stealing more than like one thing from a s... Apr 21 2007, 03:23 PM
Shaitan So you think I can use Aerie as a competent partym... Apr 21 2007, 09:25 PM
thetruth Yes, Aerie with a combination of Cleric and Mage s... Apr 21 2007, 09:36 PM
Mongerman the truth, how is haer delis helpful? I'm thin... Apr 23 2007, 12:19 AM
thetruth You can use him as a F/M, if you don't have on... Apr 23 2007, 03:46 AM
nataben1314 Update: I've started! Unfortunately, my pr... Apr 23 2007, 05:03 AM
Shaitan Sorry to hijack this thread!
@thetruth: Have ... Apr 24 2007, 11:51 AM
thetruth
Sorry to hijack this thread!
@thetruth: Have... Apr 24 2007, 12:42 PM
Shaitan He! I guess I'll go for:
F/I
Minsc
Jaheir... Apr 24 2007, 12:49 PM
thetruth Yes, this is an even better party for IA. ;) Apr 24 2007, 01:26 PM
sturmvogel I'm getting set for my first IA game and would... May 3 2007, 03:10 AM
Toxeus
f/m is a must for IA, so may be try Xan? ;) Berse... May 3 2007, 03:39 AM![]() ![]() |
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