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Mar 4 2007, 08:59 AM
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Forum Member Posts: 66 Joined: 14-January 07 |
It seems as though, judging from another and not having actually played the mod yet (waiting for v4), that mages are now in a situation where they are used almost totally for dispelling, immuning other characters, and creating summons. Would those in the know (esp. sikret/thetruth) agree with that? I'm not trying to imply that this is necessarily a negative if true, I'm just interested for the sake of future spell and party selection
Speaking of party selection, do you think I'd be making things too hard for myself to make a party of single-class characters? I've always disliked multiclasses unless soloing, and am not too keen on having a party full of five fighter/x's and one ranger/cleric. And on difficulty, I wonder if it would be possible to make a rough difficulty guide for the quests of chapters 2 and/or 6? What I envision is something like e.g. "windspear hills: level 9-13 minimum" or whatever. With all the new content its difficult for me to know which are the easier quests and which are the ones best left to chapter 6. And for a player of my (low) skill level, it is difficult to determine if you are losing a fight due to wrong tactics, or due to the fact that you're simply too low of a level for that fight. So a general quest difficulty guide (at least for chapters 2/6 where the game is not very linear, and maybe a minimum avg. level before going off to spellhold) would likely save me much frustration and/or lots of me making HELP threads thanks, and I can't wait until v4. |
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Apr 19 2007, 10:12 PM
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sikret:
excellent, thanks! I will use my R/C for my protagonist then. thetruth: What makes the f/t or swashy so good? I mean I know they can backstab but other than that what distinguishes them from a fighter? I confess that I don't think I get the maximum use out of UAI. What's so good about it? What about instead of a swashy maybe being a bountyhunter? I read somewhere that high level bountyhunters have a throwable area of effect maze trap with a significant save penalty attached. Is that true? Would it be effective in IA? Maybe like a fighter dualed to a bountyhunter? Oh and what all is entailed with dualing the berserker to mage? Do I just have to make sure int is 16 or above? Should I dual him immediately, like right at the very beginning of irenicus' dungeon? thanks guys! |
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Apr 20 2007, 02:22 AM
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Retired team member Tactical reputation: 2 Posts: 177 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Greece |
What makes the f/t or swashy so good? I mean I know they can backstab but other than that what distinguishes them from a fighter? I confess that I don't think I get the maximum use out of UAI. What's so good about it? F/T at high levels is like a Fighter with thieving skills. Same THACO (missing only 1 ApR if you use the Grand Mastery patch). With UAI you can use: - weapons, like the Scarlet Ninja-To (+1 ApR) or the Carsomyr - items, like Jan's armor (+ DoEastheaven, Hardiness, Gromnir's helm for 85% res. to physical dmg and immunity to crushing) - scrolls (having a secondary F/M is always useful in the really tough battles) Timetraps: In the SoA part of the game are extremely useful. Pick some of them right after UAI and before GWWs. 10 ApR (dualwielding Belm,Kundane or Scarlet + I.Haste) with the time stopped Swashbuckler: He reaches his true power in ToB levels. - 24 permanent AC + UAI + WWs + Timetraps and with a Fighter's THACO and big bonus to damage. His AC is effective even against the very powerful enemies of IA. In a small party he would be even more effective (higher levels in the SoA part of the game) QUOTE What about instead of a swashy maybe being a bountyhunter? I read somewhere that high level bountyhunters have a throwable area of effect maze trap with a significant save penalty attached. Is that true? Would it be effective in IA? The Bounty Hunters' traps can maze the target ignoring MR and saving throws. They can be thrown but only if the enemy is out of your visual range. Maze traps can be a very good tactical weapon (dividing enemies), but the Bounty Hunter doesn't have the melee power of a F/T or a Swashie. QUOTE Maybe like a fighter dualed to a bountyhunter? In BG2 you can't choose a kit for your second class. QUOTE Oh and what all is entailed with dualing the berserker to mage? Do I just have to make sure int is 16 or above? Should I dual him immediately, like right at the very beginning of irenicus' dungeon? You need 15 in STR and 17 in INT. Mongerman wrote the best levels for dual-classing (though you gain 1/2 ApR at 7 level and another 1/2 at 13). The best (power-wise) level for dualclass is the 13 level, but in this case you want him mainly as a Mage. So if you dual class at 7 level he will level up so fast that you won't miss at all any Mage spells. Just remember to take Grand Mastery in a 1-handed weapon.Even better if you have the True Grandmastery patch (Ease of Use). The B-M will be very effective with Timestop + I.Haste + dual wielding. |
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nataben1314 Misc. Questions on Difficulty, Party Composition, and Spell Selection Mar 4 2007, 08:59 AM
thetruth
This is not entirely true.
They are still effec... Mar 4 2007, 10:57 AM
Sikret Hi, nataben!
I believe that the answer to som... Mar 4 2007, 11:17 AM
Demivrgvs Why did you recommended not to choose an archer? I... Mar 5 2007, 07:31 AM
rbeverjr As my question is similar, I'll just post on t... Mar 8 2007, 02:25 PM
thetruth
Hey a Cleric is more powerful than a Rod of Res... Mar 9 2007, 12:13 AM
Sikret
And there aren't many enemies with immunity ... Mar 9 2007, 12:30 AM
rbeverjr
And there aren't many enemies with immunity... Mar 9 2007, 02:57 PM
thetruth @ Demivrgvs
Sikret will answer this, but IMO an... Mar 9 2007, 03:57 PM
Sikret [quote name='Sikret' post='21107' date='Mar 8 200... Mar 10 2007, 10:02 AM
Demivrgvs In V3 i think S!IMMUNE gave immunity to dispel... Mar 9 2007, 12:59 PM
Sikret In V3 i think S!IMMUNE gave immunity to dispe... Mar 10 2007, 10:06 AM
rbeverjr You're probably right concerning the berserker... Mar 9 2007, 04:25 PM
Mordokai
Just a short reply to this, then I'm off to ... Mar 9 2007, 09:19 PM
thetruth
Feel free to prove me otherwise if you feel like ... Mar 9 2007, 09:45 PM
nataben1314 So if both backstab and archery aren't very ef... Mar 10 2007, 07:42 PM
thetruth
So if both backstab and archery aren't very e... Mar 10 2007, 08:18 PM
leonidas May as well ask this here. Do triple class charact... Mar 11 2007, 12:29 AM
Sikret Hi, leonidas!
Welcome to BWL!
May as we... Mar 11 2007, 05:21 AM
Shaitan Just a little question to wich I guess the answer ... Apr 11 2007, 11:05 AM
Sikret Yes. Apr 11 2007, 11:13 AM
Shaitan :) Apr 11 2007, 12:08 PM
Toxeus Tell me please about difficulty of IA vs Tactics/B... Apr 12 2007, 09:23 AM
Rhed
Tell me please about difficulty of IA vs Tactics/... Apr 12 2007, 09:43 AM

Sikret
The new battles are very challenging! Whether... Apr 12 2007, 03:11 PM
thetruth
Tell me please about difficulty of IA vs Tactics/... Apr 12 2007, 01:31 PM
Sikret
Also personally I would recommend the use of the... Apr 12 2007, 02:40 PM
Shaitan Can't you bring us some insight info, such as ... Apr 12 2007, 01:36 PM
thetruth
Can't you bring us some insight info, such as... Apr 12 2007, 01:58 PM
Shaitan Yes I suspect it may make the game no easier. The ... Apr 12 2007, 02:10 PM
nataben1314 I'm back with a couple questions before I get ... Apr 19 2007, 05:51 AM
Sikret Note that I'm not really worried about the la... Apr 19 2007, 07:53 AM
coaster Seems a bit underpowered on the arcane magic front... Apr 19 2007, 06:55 AM
thetruth @nataben1314
First of all IIRC you don't lik... Apr 19 2007, 04:12 PM
coaster thetruth - yes, it is the combination of power and... Apr 19 2007, 07:56 PM
Mongerman Generally, the levels to duel are
lvl 7 - basic... Apr 20 2007, 12:14 AM
nataben1314 Excellent, thanks! I think I'll go with a ... Apr 20 2007, 02:30 AM
thetruth
Your comment about some battles being harder tha... Apr 20 2007, 02:39 AM
nataben1314
Not all of them but let's say that the most d... Apr 20 2007, 08:47 AM
Sikret
1. (protagonist for ranger content) ranger/cleric... Apr 20 2007, 02:57 PM
nataben1314 (1) No.1, no.3 and no.6 are fine, IMO. Just why do... Apr 20 2007, 03:57 PM
Mongerman Might as well ask this as well. thetruth, you stat... Apr 20 2007, 01:40 PM
thetruth @nataben1314
First of all I don't have much e... Apr 20 2007, 04:03 PM
Mongerman Thanks for the fast reply thetruth. Apr 20 2007, 04:21 PM
Shaitan A new party!
I'm pondering if this party ... Apr 21 2007, 08:51 AM
Sikret Protagonist F/M (halfelf, dual in Longswords/Flai... Apr 21 2007, 12:59 PM
thetruth @Shaitan
Yes it is a good party.
I wouldn't t... Apr 21 2007, 11:31 AM
Shaitan
@Shaitan
Yes it is a good party.
I wouldn't ... Apr 21 2007, 07:44 PM
thetruth
Ah :( Sorry guys! I remember why I don... Apr 21 2007, 09:02 PM
Shaitan Thanks a lot!
I use Minsc as a berserker (via... Apr 21 2007, 11:41 AM
thetruth Ah sorry I misread. I suggested flails because, if... Apr 21 2007, 12:42 PM
Mongerman Sorry to hijack this thread. Sikret, I'll be s... Apr 21 2007, 01:38 PM
thetruth
Has the long abscence from BG dulled me, or has ... Apr 21 2007, 02:44 PM
Sikret Sikret, I'll be starting my game tmr. Would y... Apr 21 2007, 03:33 PM
nataben1314 wait so stealing more than like one thing from a s... Apr 21 2007, 03:23 PM
Shaitan So you think I can use Aerie as a competent partym... Apr 21 2007, 09:25 PM
thetruth Yes, Aerie with a combination of Cleric and Mage s... Apr 21 2007, 09:36 PM
Mongerman the truth, how is haer delis helpful? I'm thin... Apr 23 2007, 12:19 AM
thetruth You can use him as a F/M, if you don't have on... Apr 23 2007, 03:46 AM
nataben1314 Update: I've started! Unfortunately, my pr... Apr 23 2007, 05:03 AM
Shaitan Sorry to hijack this thread!
@thetruth: Have ... Apr 24 2007, 11:51 AM
thetruth
Sorry to hijack this thread!
@thetruth: Have... Apr 24 2007, 12:42 PM
Shaitan He! I guess I'll go for:
F/I
Minsc
Jaheir... Apr 24 2007, 12:49 PM
thetruth Yes, this is an even better party for IA. ;) Apr 24 2007, 01:26 PM
sturmvogel I'm getting set for my first IA game and would... May 3 2007, 03:10 AM
Toxeus
f/m is a must for IA, so may be try Xan? ;) Berse... May 3 2007, 03:39 AM![]() ![]() |
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