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nataben1314
post Mar 4 2007, 08:59 AM
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It seems as though, judging from another and not having actually played the mod yet (waiting for v4), that mages are now in a situation where they are used almost totally for dispelling, immuning other characters, and creating summons. Would those in the know (esp. sikret/thetruth) agree with that? I'm not trying to imply that this is necessarily a negative if true, I'm just interested for the sake of future spell and party selection smile.gif

Speaking of party selection, do you think I'd be making things too hard for myself to make a party of single-class characters? I've always disliked multiclasses unless soloing, and am not too keen on having a party full of five fighter/x's and one ranger/cleric.

And on difficulty, I wonder if it would be possible to make a rough difficulty guide for the quests of chapters 2 and/or 6? What I envision is something like e.g. "windspear hills: level 9-13 minimum" or whatever. With all the new content its difficult for me to know which are the easier quests and which are the ones best left to chapter 6. And for a player of my (low) skill level, it is difficult to determine if you are losing a fight due to wrong tactics, or due to the fact that you're simply too low of a level for that fight. So a general quest difficulty guide (at least for chapters 2/6 where the game is not very linear, and maybe a minimum avg. level before going off to spellhold) would likely save me much frustration and/or lots of me making HELP threads tongue.gif

thanks, and I can't wait until v4.
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Mordokai
post Mar 9 2007, 09:19 PM
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Sikret will answer this, but IMO an Archer is less effective in IA because many enemies are immune to missile dmg, especially Golems


Just a short reply to this, then I'm off to my workout for the night. I'll post longer reply tommorow, whn I wake up.

While what you say is true(and I lost many a nerves over the 100% missile damage resistance), archer is still a powerful kit, and can easily match himself with other ranger kits. I tested the game with it(Sikret, bear with me, you'll get a pm soon enought where I tell you why I stopped), and I believe that it is still a powerful kit. It can kill dragons in a matter of seconds if you have somoeno distracting them(and you will have them, trust me), and many mages were killed solely by him, while distracted by summons. So yes, archer is still a kit worth taking. Imo, that is.

Feel free to prove me otherwise if you feel like it. I'm open for a debate.
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post Mar 9 2007, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(Mordokai @ Mar 9 2007, 10:19 PM) *

Feel free to prove me otherwise if you feel like it. I'm open for a debate.



Heh no need for debate on the Archer kit. I am well aware of his power wink.gif

In fact when Sikret asked me to choose a Ranger for testing IA I wanted to take an Archer.But since I didn't know IA's content I decided to take a Stalker instead.

And archers are not only effective against Dragon and Mages.
Potentially they can kill in a few seconds even the most powerful enemy in the game:

Tuigan's bow + I.Haste + Called Shot = STR draining death wink.gif
(Sim from Vhailor's helm for enemies with more than 19 STR)

Almost noone is immune to stats drain in the original or modded BGII.
Fortunately IA is an exception.

That said though the fact that some of the most powerful enemies of IA are immune to Missile dmg is sthg to consider before you choose an Archer as your main character.
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nataben1314   Misc. Questions on Difficulty, Party Composition, and Spell Selection   Mar 4 2007, 08:59 AM
thetruth   This is not entirely true. They are still effec...   Mar 4 2007, 10:57 AM
Sikret   Hi, nataben! I believe that the answer to som...   Mar 4 2007, 11:17 AM
Demivrgvs   Why did you recommended not to choose an archer? I...   Mar 5 2007, 07:31 AM
rbeverjr   As my question is similar, I'll just post on t...   Mar 8 2007, 02:25 PM
thetruth   Hey a Cleric is more powerful than a Rod of Res...   Mar 9 2007, 12:13 AM
Sikret   And there aren't many enemies with immunity ...   Mar 9 2007, 12:30 AM
rbeverjr   And there aren't many enemies with immunity...   Mar 9 2007, 02:57 PM
thetruth   @ Demivrgvs Sikret will answer this, but IMO an...   Mar 9 2007, 03:57 PM
Sikret   [quote name='Sikret' post='21107' date='Mar 8 200...   Mar 10 2007, 10:02 AM
Demivrgvs   In V3 i think S!IMMUNE gave immunity to dispel...   Mar 9 2007, 12:59 PM
Sikret   In V3 i think S!IMMUNE gave immunity to dispe...   Mar 10 2007, 10:06 AM
rbeverjr   You're probably right concerning the berserker...   Mar 9 2007, 04:25 PM
Mordokai   Just a short reply to this, then I'm off to ...   Mar 9 2007, 09:19 PM
thetruth   Feel free to prove me otherwise if you feel like ...   Mar 9 2007, 09:45 PM
nataben1314   So if both backstab and archery aren't very ef...   Mar 10 2007, 07:42 PM
thetruth   So if both backstab and archery aren't very e...   Mar 10 2007, 08:18 PM
leonidas   May as well ask this here. Do triple class charact...   Mar 11 2007, 12:29 AM
Sikret   Hi, leonidas! Welcome to BWL! May as we...   Mar 11 2007, 05:21 AM
Shaitan   Just a little question to wich I guess the answer ...   Apr 11 2007, 11:05 AM
Sikret   Yes.   Apr 11 2007, 11:13 AM
Shaitan   :)   Apr 11 2007, 12:08 PM
Toxeus   Tell me please about difficulty of IA vs Tactics/B...   Apr 12 2007, 09:23 AM
Rhed   Tell me please about difficulty of IA vs Tactics/...   Apr 12 2007, 09:43 AM
Sikret   The new battles are very challenging! Whether...   Apr 12 2007, 03:11 PM
thetruth   Tell me please about difficulty of IA vs Tactics/...   Apr 12 2007, 01:31 PM
Sikret   Also personally I would recommend the use of the...   Apr 12 2007, 02:40 PM
Shaitan   Can't you bring us some insight info, such as ...   Apr 12 2007, 01:36 PM
thetruth   Can't you bring us some insight info, such as...   Apr 12 2007, 01:58 PM
Shaitan   Yes I suspect it may make the game no easier. The ...   Apr 12 2007, 02:10 PM
nataben1314   I'm back with a couple questions before I get ...   Apr 19 2007, 05:51 AM
Sikret   Note that I'm not really worried about the la...   Apr 19 2007, 07:53 AM
coaster   Seems a bit underpowered on the arcane magic front...   Apr 19 2007, 06:55 AM
thetruth   @nataben1314 First of all IIRC you don't lik...   Apr 19 2007, 04:12 PM
coaster   thetruth - yes, it is the combination of power and...   Apr 19 2007, 07:56 PM
nataben1314   sikret: excellent, thanks! I will use my R/C ...   Apr 19 2007, 10:12 PM
thetruth   What makes the f/t or swashy so good? I mean I kn...   Apr 20 2007, 02:22 AM
Mongerman   Generally, the levels to duel are lvl 7 - basic...   Apr 20 2007, 12:14 AM
nataben1314   Excellent, thanks! I think I'll go with a ...   Apr 20 2007, 02:30 AM
thetruth   Your comment about some battles being harder tha...   Apr 20 2007, 02:39 AM
nataben1314   Not all of them but let's say that the most d...   Apr 20 2007, 08:47 AM
Sikret   1. (protagonist for ranger content) ranger/cleric...   Apr 20 2007, 02:57 PM
nataben1314   (1) No.1, no.3 and no.6 are fine, IMO. Just why do...   Apr 20 2007, 03:57 PM
Mongerman   Might as well ask this as well. thetruth, you stat...   Apr 20 2007, 01:40 PM
thetruth   @nataben1314 First of all I don't have much e...   Apr 20 2007, 04:03 PM
Mongerman   Thanks for the fast reply thetruth.   Apr 20 2007, 04:21 PM
Shaitan   A new party! I'm pondering if this party ...   Apr 21 2007, 08:51 AM
Sikret   Protagonist F/M (halfelf, dual in Longswords/Flai...   Apr 21 2007, 12:59 PM
thetruth   @Shaitan Yes it is a good party. I wouldn't t...   Apr 21 2007, 11:31 AM
Shaitan   @Shaitan Yes it is a good party. I wouldn't ...   Apr 21 2007, 07:44 PM
thetruth   Ah :( Sorry guys! I remember why I don...   Apr 21 2007, 09:02 PM
Shaitan   Thanks a lot! I use Minsc as a berserker (via...   Apr 21 2007, 11:41 AM
thetruth   Ah sorry I misread. I suggested flails because, if...   Apr 21 2007, 12:42 PM
Mongerman   Sorry to hijack this thread. Sikret, I'll be s...   Apr 21 2007, 01:38 PM
thetruth   Has the long abscence from BG dulled me, or has ...   Apr 21 2007, 02:44 PM
Sikret   Sikret, I'll be starting my game tmr. Would y...   Apr 21 2007, 03:33 PM
nataben1314   wait so stealing more than like one thing from a s...   Apr 21 2007, 03:23 PM
Shaitan   So you think I can use Aerie as a competent partym...   Apr 21 2007, 09:25 PM
thetruth   Yes, Aerie with a combination of Cleric and Mage s...   Apr 21 2007, 09:36 PM
Mongerman   the truth, how is haer delis helpful? I'm thin...   Apr 23 2007, 12:19 AM
thetruth   You can use him as a F/M, if you don't have on...   Apr 23 2007, 03:46 AM
nataben1314   Update: I've started! Unfortunately, my pr...   Apr 23 2007, 05:03 AM
Shaitan   Sorry to hijack this thread! @thetruth: Have ...   Apr 24 2007, 11:51 AM
thetruth   Sorry to hijack this thread! @thetruth: Have...   Apr 24 2007, 12:42 PM
Shaitan   He! I guess I'll go for: F/I Minsc Jaheir...   Apr 24 2007, 12:49 PM
thetruth   Yes, this is an even better party for IA. ;)   Apr 24 2007, 01:26 PM
sturmvogel   I'm getting set for my first IA game and would...   May 3 2007, 03:10 AM
Toxeus   f/m is a must for IA, so may be try Xan? ;) Berse...   May 3 2007, 03:39 AM


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