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Mar 4 2007, 08:59 AM
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Forum Member Posts: 66 Joined: 14-January 07 |
It seems as though, judging from another and not having actually played the mod yet (waiting for v4), that mages are now in a situation where they are used almost totally for dispelling, immuning other characters, and creating summons. Would those in the know (esp. sikret/thetruth) agree with that? I'm not trying to imply that this is necessarily a negative if true, I'm just interested for the sake of future spell and party selection
Speaking of party selection, do you think I'd be making things too hard for myself to make a party of single-class characters? I've always disliked multiclasses unless soloing, and am not too keen on having a party full of five fighter/x's and one ranger/cleric. And on difficulty, I wonder if it would be possible to make a rough difficulty guide for the quests of chapters 2 and/or 6? What I envision is something like e.g. "windspear hills: level 9-13 minimum" or whatever. With all the new content its difficult for me to know which are the easier quests and which are the ones best left to chapter 6. And for a player of my (low) skill level, it is difficult to determine if you are losing a fight due to wrong tactics, or due to the fact that you're simply too low of a level for that fight. So a general quest difficulty guide (at least for chapters 2/6 where the game is not very linear, and maybe a minimum avg. level before going off to spellhold) would likely save me much frustration and/or lots of me making HELP threads thanks, and I can't wait until v4. |
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Mar 9 2007, 12:13 AM
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Retired team member Tactical reputation: 2 Posts: 177 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Greece |
QUOTE My experience suggests that in Sikret battles a fully charged Rod of Resurrection (ranged heal) works better than a cleric. Do you advise that I keep the RC, thetruth? Hey a Cleric is more powerful than a Rod of Resurrection Besides Greater Restoration full-heals ALL your party members at once. But yes they are more useful during SoA than in ToB. A RC though is much more powerful than a simple Cleric, so it is a difficult choice. QUOTE Also, I was frustrated that my Inquisitor's Dispel Magic wasn't so helpful. I guess it was that when I really needed that spell, the target(s) were immune. Inquisitor's Dispel Magic will work if target doesn't have SI: Abjuration. And there aren't many enemies with immunity to Dispel Magic. QUOTE I also have not found backstab or even high level traps to be very helpful. Yes most enemies are immune to traps (except Timetraps of course). Backstab isn't very helpful either since some of the enemies have immunity and /or can see through invisibility (though you can still backstab someone who can see through invisibility and is not immune IIRC). QUOTE On my first time through with this party of 4, I often have to reload at least once during the Sikret battles. When facing Firkraag at level 15, I probably had to reload 3 or 4 times. Reloading at least once/IA battle and 3-4 times for improved Firkraag is not much. The first game with IA is a new experience and like with other similar mods (Tactics,I.Battles,Ascension) do not expect to win the battles without some reloads |
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Mar 9 2007, 12:30 AM
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The Tactician ![]() Distinguished Developer Posts: 7794 Joined: 1-December 05 |
And there aren't many enemies with immunity to Dispel Magic. Actually, none of the enemies are immune to dispel magic. But in addition to SI:Abjuration, your dispel magic can also fail for the difference between levels of experience. A 10th level inquistor casts dispel magic at level 20 and it can still fail against high level enemies even if they don't have SI:abjuration. -------------------- Improved Anvil
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Mar 9 2007, 02:57 PM
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And there aren't many enemies with immunity to Dispel Magic. Actually, none of the enemies are immune to dispel magic. But in addition to SI:Abjuration, your dispel magic can also fail for the difference between levels of experience. A 10th level inquistor casts dispel magic at level 20 and it can still fail against high level enemies even if they don't have SI:abjuration. If you are immune to level 5 spells or lower, then I suppose that makes you immune to this spell, right? Likewise if you are immune to level 9 spells or lower, then you are immune - is this only the demilich? With Spell Immunity: Abjuration, you are immune also - at least temporarily. The improved creatures also usually have layered defenses. Is it worth a level 9 slot for Spell Strike to take them down all at once? Is it worth the time and spells to remove the layered protections in a more conventional manner? I was somewhat dismayed because in the vanilla game, Keldorn's Dispel Magic almost aways succeeded even from the beginning regardless of his opponent. His Dispel Magic seemed much less reliable in Improved Anvil, which makes me less a fan of this class for this mod compared to the overpowered classes (for the unmodified game) of the fighter-mages, mages, ranger-clerics, etc. ----------------- Hiya thetruth: rather than PM'ing you, I'll ask here because other people may be interested in your answer. I'm trying to keep to a party of 4. I realize that a cleric can always be useful to a party, regardless of his type: berserker>cleric, ranger>cleric, ranger-cleric, etc. What I am wondering is if some other class may be more helpful in a party of 4 for ToB in Improved Anvil V3. With your experience, do you think that the morituri, sorcerer, FMT, and RC ....OR..... the morituri, sorcerer, swashbuckler, and kensai 13>mage would be the easier win? (Note: I also have the XP cap removed and the Improved Battles of Ascension except the final battle and the battles that Sikret has already improved.) This post has been edited by rbeverjr: Mar 9 2007, 02:59 PM |
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nataben1314 Misc. Questions on Difficulty, Party Composition, and Spell Selection Mar 4 2007, 08:59 AM
thetruth
This is not entirely true.
They are still effec... Mar 4 2007, 10:57 AM
Sikret Hi, nataben!
I believe that the answer to som... Mar 4 2007, 11:17 AM
Demivrgvs Why did you recommended not to choose an archer? I... Mar 5 2007, 07:31 AM
rbeverjr As my question is similar, I'll just post on t... Mar 8 2007, 02:25 PM
thetruth @ Demivrgvs
Sikret will answer this, but IMO an... Mar 9 2007, 03:57 PM
Sikret [quote name='Sikret' post='21107' date='Mar 8 200... Mar 10 2007, 10:02 AM
Demivrgvs In V3 i think S!IMMUNE gave immunity to dispel... Mar 9 2007, 12:59 PM
Sikret In V3 i think S!IMMUNE gave immunity to dispe... Mar 10 2007, 10:06 AM
rbeverjr You're probably right concerning the berserker... Mar 9 2007, 04:25 PM
Mordokai
Just a short reply to this, then I'm off to ... Mar 9 2007, 09:19 PM
thetruth
Feel free to prove me otherwise if you feel like ... Mar 9 2007, 09:45 PM
nataben1314 So if both backstab and archery aren't very ef... Mar 10 2007, 07:42 PM
thetruth
So if both backstab and archery aren't very e... Mar 10 2007, 08:18 PM
leonidas May as well ask this here. Do triple class charact... Mar 11 2007, 12:29 AM
Sikret Hi, leonidas!
Welcome to BWL!
May as we... Mar 11 2007, 05:21 AM
Shaitan Just a little question to wich I guess the answer ... Apr 11 2007, 11:05 AM
Sikret Yes. Apr 11 2007, 11:13 AM
Shaitan :) Apr 11 2007, 12:08 PM
Toxeus Tell me please about difficulty of IA vs Tactics/B... Apr 12 2007, 09:23 AM
Rhed
Tell me please about difficulty of IA vs Tactics/... Apr 12 2007, 09:43 AM

Sikret
The new battles are very challenging! Whether... Apr 12 2007, 03:11 PM
thetruth
Tell me please about difficulty of IA vs Tactics/... Apr 12 2007, 01:31 PM
Sikret
Also personally I would recommend the use of the... Apr 12 2007, 02:40 PM
Shaitan Can't you bring us some insight info, such as ... Apr 12 2007, 01:36 PM
thetruth
Can't you bring us some insight info, such as... Apr 12 2007, 01:58 PM
Shaitan Yes I suspect it may make the game no easier. The ... Apr 12 2007, 02:10 PM
nataben1314 I'm back with a couple questions before I get ... Apr 19 2007, 05:51 AM
Sikret Note that I'm not really worried about the la... Apr 19 2007, 07:53 AM
coaster Seems a bit underpowered on the arcane magic front... Apr 19 2007, 06:55 AM
thetruth @nataben1314
First of all IIRC you don't lik... Apr 19 2007, 04:12 PM
coaster thetruth - yes, it is the combination of power and... Apr 19 2007, 07:56 PM
nataben1314 sikret:
excellent, thanks! I will use my R/C ... Apr 19 2007, 10:12 PM
thetruth
What makes the f/t or swashy so good? I mean I kn... Apr 20 2007, 02:22 AM
Mongerman Generally, the levels to duel are
lvl 7 - basic... Apr 20 2007, 12:14 AM
nataben1314 Excellent, thanks! I think I'll go with a ... Apr 20 2007, 02:30 AM
thetruth
Your comment about some battles being harder tha... Apr 20 2007, 02:39 AM
nataben1314
Not all of them but let's say that the most d... Apr 20 2007, 08:47 AM
Sikret
1. (protagonist for ranger content) ranger/cleric... Apr 20 2007, 02:57 PM
nataben1314 (1) No.1, no.3 and no.6 are fine, IMO. Just why do... Apr 20 2007, 03:57 PM
Mongerman Might as well ask this as well. thetruth, you stat... Apr 20 2007, 01:40 PM
thetruth @nataben1314
First of all I don't have much e... Apr 20 2007, 04:03 PM
Mongerman Thanks for the fast reply thetruth. Apr 20 2007, 04:21 PM
Shaitan A new party!
I'm pondering if this party ... Apr 21 2007, 08:51 AM
Sikret Protagonist F/M (halfelf, dual in Longswords/Flai... Apr 21 2007, 12:59 PM
thetruth @Shaitan
Yes it is a good party.
I wouldn't t... Apr 21 2007, 11:31 AM
Shaitan
@Shaitan
Yes it is a good party.
I wouldn't ... Apr 21 2007, 07:44 PM
thetruth
Ah :( Sorry guys! I remember why I don... Apr 21 2007, 09:02 PM
Shaitan Thanks a lot!
I use Minsc as a berserker (via... Apr 21 2007, 11:41 AM
thetruth Ah sorry I misread. I suggested flails because, if... Apr 21 2007, 12:42 PM
Mongerman Sorry to hijack this thread. Sikret, I'll be s... Apr 21 2007, 01:38 PM
thetruth
Has the long abscence from BG dulled me, or has ... Apr 21 2007, 02:44 PM
Sikret Sikret, I'll be starting my game tmr. Would y... Apr 21 2007, 03:33 PM
nataben1314 wait so stealing more than like one thing from a s... Apr 21 2007, 03:23 PM
Shaitan So you think I can use Aerie as a competent partym... Apr 21 2007, 09:25 PM
thetruth Yes, Aerie with a combination of Cleric and Mage s... Apr 21 2007, 09:36 PM
Mongerman the truth, how is haer delis helpful? I'm thin... Apr 23 2007, 12:19 AM
thetruth You can use him as a F/M, if you don't have on... Apr 23 2007, 03:46 AM
nataben1314 Update: I've started! Unfortunately, my pr... Apr 23 2007, 05:03 AM
Shaitan Sorry to hijack this thread!
@thetruth: Have ... Apr 24 2007, 11:51 AM
thetruth
Sorry to hijack this thread!
@thetruth: Have... Apr 24 2007, 12:42 PM
Shaitan He! I guess I'll go for:
F/I
Minsc
Jaheir... Apr 24 2007, 12:49 PM
thetruth Yes, this is an even better party for IA. ;) Apr 24 2007, 01:26 PM
sturmvogel I'm getting set for my first IA game and would... May 3 2007, 03:10 AM
Toxeus
f/m is a must for IA, so may be try Xan? ;) Berse... May 3 2007, 03:39 AM![]() ![]() |
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