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Salk
post Sep 30 2005, 08:03 PM
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Hello!

I am at the moment unable to verify directly but I wonder if I remember well.

Is it true that both in Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate 2 a magic user (both divine and arcane) can use wands or read scrolls with spells that are of much higher level than he/she could actually master ?

In short, is it true that I can, example, read and start the effects of a Lightning Bolt scroll having a second level Mage read it ?

If this is true, I think it would be definitely something that I'd like to see corrected. I don't know what the AD&D 2ed. says about this but I'd think it shouldn't be at all allowed.

If instead I am just misremembering then sorry for the stupid question! cool.gif
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Salk
post Oct 2 2005, 01:20 AM
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I personally don't agree at all with what Balduran and Baronius think of how scrolls should work.

The proficiens of reading magic should not allow at all any idiot to unleash the power of magic. The true meaning of magic and the power that comes out of it shouldn't be - in my opinion - a pure and simple exercise of speaking magic without KNOWING DEEPLY what it implies.

A certain amount of culture, of experience, of Intelligence (for mages) is a requirement, NOT ONLY, for memorizing a spell once for good in one's mind but also to trigger the enchantment (not to mention that most spells have not only the vocal component but also the somatic and the material).

Magic - in short - is not only words. I can read English, but can I understand Shakespeare or Wilde ? I have eyes to look around, but do I also see beyond the surface ?

A divine/arcane user must reach a certain degree of empathy to truly understand what lies beyond mere words. If we accept passively the fact that anyone able to read magic can master the content of a scroll containing any spell then we must also discuss why there are some requirements for learning those same spells!

If it's like you say, the magician or the cleric should just need to learn by heart a sequence of words and I can't accept it. ph34r.gif

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