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Posted by: Vlad Apr 9 2007, 08:25 PM

Just a few words about this mod. It was written by Senka and proof-read by Larrienne. The mod adds friendship with Keldorn, expands his conflict with Anomen, his relationships with Maria, brings PC to Keldorn's enclave, to his family castle, to protect his lands from invaders.

Posted by: Senka Apr 10 2007, 08:54 AM

I'm just happy that work already started Thank you, Vlad!

Posted by: K'aeloree Apr 10 2007, 10:17 AM

Can't wait to see what comes of this!

Posted by: Toxeus Apr 10 2007, 12:28 PM

Great! Something about preliminary date?

Posted by: Vlad Apr 10 2007, 12:37 PM

I hope -> this year.

Posted by: Ardanis Apr 10 2007, 01:48 PM

I hope you won't make it incompatible with other mods?
Anyway, sounds promising, good luck with it.

Posted by: Senka Apr 10 2007, 01:55 PM

Other NPC-romances are not welcome

Posted by: Vlad Apr 10 2007, 03:20 PM

As Senka said, it will be technically compatible. However, all other romances will be blocked as in the original game, where you cannot have more than one romance at a time.

Posted by: Ardanis Apr 10 2007, 03:28 PM

Thanks, I have nothing to worry about then.

Posted by: Toxeus Apr 11 2007, 06:00 AM

I hope i'll be possible for male protagonist to be Keldorn's friend and , for example, Jaheira's lover?

Posted by: Senka Apr 11 2007, 08:58 AM

No. This mod is for female PC. You have a lot of mods for male-PC, really

Posted by: K'aeloree Apr 11 2007, 09:39 AM

So this is a romance, and not a friendship? I'm a little confused, now. You should be able to be in a friendship with several people at once as well as in a romance, shouldn't you?

Posted by: Senka Apr 11 2007, 10:12 AM

Of course it's friendship AND romance with Keldorn. I didn't care about other NPC, frankly Or I didn't understand your question, sorry

Posted by: K'aeloree Apr 11 2007, 10:51 AM

That's okay - Vlad said it was a friendship, rather than a romance, so... Thanks. So a male PC can be friends with him, right?

Posted by: Senka Apr 11 2007, 11:12 AM

I think for male-PC relatoinships with Keldorn is not available. All dialogues are written for female-PC

Posted by: Ardanis Apr 11 2007, 02:12 PM

I thought that meant friendship, no matter of gender. Since I can't imagine myself playing female character, I appear to have a bad luck. Alas...

Well, good luck anyway.

Posted by: Ankhesenpaaten May 31 2007, 06:42 PM

I'm glad to see that this is really going to happen! I've read some forums and every so often we girls wonder what it would be like to have Keldorn be romanceable even though he has a family. The fact that he can have a really bad family situation would open things up I think. I mean Bioware has Jaihera just lose her husband and be a romance so why not Keldorn if his quest goes the bad route? I can't wait to see how you handle all of this and I hope it comes soon. Is most of the story and dialogs already written? It kind of sounds like it. I'm glad to see this here Senka I know from another forum that you've been working on this for a very long time.

Posted by: Senka May 31 2007, 09:39 PM

Yes. But TOB-part is still translated...

Posted by: Ankhesenpaaten Jun 5 2007, 04:22 PM

Wow it sounds like so much has already been done even though TOB still needs translating. I can wait a little while!
Will you be releasing SOA first then TOB or will you be waiting until both are done and release them together?
Oh and I should re-read here in case I missed anything but I wonder if Keldorn will only romance a Good pc or if he also romance Neutral pc. Maybe can you post a brief overview section about this when you have a chance? Of course you don't have to but it would be nice to have a reference! : )

Posted by: Senka Jun 5 2007, 07:40 PM

Really I just don't know. We shall see

Well, romance available for good and neutral pc exept TN. And thief in any form. Concerning TN I believe TN-person don't want to get involved in Keldorn-Maria relationships

Posted by: irenicus Aug 6 2008, 10:02 AM

what about good PCs?

lawful good, ectect (sorry had a brain aspole to the other names)

surely a good PC wouldn't try to seduce a married man, otherwise I am right down to lawful evil in 0.5 seconds

(Obviously not in RL )

Posted by: Hide and Seek Aug 9 2008, 02:16 PM

Good call!

I rarely play with females, but I would be willing to do it just to see the angst between Keldorn and Maria.. and the process of going from the "love of his entire life" to a Bhaalspawn, even if Keldorn perhaps is a little too old for a 20-year female PC.. but hey, it's just a game.

Posted by: Moongaze Aug 9 2008, 02:21 PM

I'm not much for "DILF" situations myself, but I am quite curious to play this mod once it's released. I wonder how it will unfold.

Posted by: irenicus Aug 9 2008, 06:57 PM

LMAO XD


P.S yes

I am watching this forum like a hawke


^___^ CANNOT WAIT EEE!!!

Posted by: Ankhesenpaaten Aug 14 2008, 02:59 PM

Just to keep up the encouragement.......yay! I can't wait to romance Keldorn! This is one I check on at least once a day and lots of time multiple times a day.

Posted by: Vlad Aug 15 2008, 09:53 AM

Passion... passion... It's not my style to discuss the project when it is till in progress and to tease people with sharing its progress. But since you are so obsessed, I think I would calm you saying that I'm planning to finish it before November, or at least to release the beta version. Anyway, don't catch me at my word. It is still strongly dependent on my RL.

Posted by: Senka Aug 15 2008, 11:53 AM

Oh, Vlad, it would be the great present to my birthday!

Posted by: irenicus Aug 15 2008, 06:10 PM

OH
MY
GOD
EEEe
ILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYIL
YILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILY
ILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYIL
YILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILYILY

-end fan girl squealing-

I'll behave now -sucks thumb and rocks back and fourth-

Posted by: Ankhesenpaaten Aug 15 2008, 07:55 PM

Heh! Thanks for caring enough about us to even give us a tentative date! I for one understand RL pressures so will understand if it takes a bit longer. Thank you for all your hard work. You too of course Senka! You both are creating probably the most intriguiging romance ever. You are making what seemed impossible possible!

Posted by: irenicus Aug 20 2008, 09:27 PM

Just a question

how far does this romance allow us to go? marriage/sex/a kiss on the cheek?

and is it long? (I am assuming perhaps due to the fact it has TOB release)

puh-leeze answer so I can again go into suttle silence of my fangirly ways

Posted by: Senka Aug 21 2008, 08:41 AM

Yes, it's planned

your choice

To the end

Posted by: irenicus Aug 21 2008, 09:08 AM

EEEE!! -squeals-
YAAAAAY

(I actually did do I fangirl scream just then which caused my parents to run into the room and they saw me crying when asked what was up I was like I GET TO ROMANCE KELDORN!!!!!)

mum: ehhh?!
dad: ...who?
brother behind them: video game character that she has plastered on her wall
mum and dad: oooooooooh -walk off-



XD I often get scenarios like that

Posted by: irenicus Aug 26 2008, 08:34 PM

sooooooo

;; progress



I imprissioned maria again today, it seems to heal the fangirl urges...

Yes theres a question what happens this time when she cheats on keldorn or is that a surprise I will have to wait for?

Posted by: Ankhesenpaaten Aug 26 2008, 11:25 PM

Hee hee I imprison Maria all the time! And I wonder what you are wondering too. I have to say that if it is a surprise I won't mind. It will definately be worth waiting for.

But then again a few spoilers wouldn't be amiss...

Posted by: irenicus Aug 27 2008, 08:17 AM

I FELLOW MARIA-HATER

we should become friends <3

XD yes spoilers

but then... the surprise will be awesome


augh X_X My head, was up all night gaming X_X and now my head wants to eat me alive



Tell me Ankhesen,
would you rather imprission Maria to get to Keldorn <3

or let her get away with her affair to get with keldorn

personally I want her to suffer and then rub it in her face


...

and the girls

....

-evil cackle-

gawd I should tottaly be lawful-evil at times like this... I think I am certainly like, the most eccentric player, I am like "Must think of evil ways to kill people!"


I watched Dungeons and Dragons 2 last night (The Elemental Might)

I <3 the lich and damadar, their evil ways make me happy...

...

ok that's it I am just evil to the core XD I am lying to myself!

//random hyperness moment

you know in RL I am actually as shy as you can get XD

Posted by: Ankhesenpaaten Aug 28 2008, 02:53 PM

Hmmm...personally I would want to have Maria get away with her affair and have Keldorn leave her. If she is imprisoned I fear he will feel guilty and may never be able to really move past her to love someone else.
My evil side wants her imprisoned, but my rational side wonders if that will fly with Keldorn. I don't want him feeling sorry for her.

Also I don't know if Keldorn will romance an evil pc. I hope he will at least romance a neutral one! That way I can do some good and some bad deeds.
In my last game with him I couldn't believe that just because my rep was pretty good he didn't say a word when I betrayed the silver dragon??? I was floored!

Yeah, in RL I am pretty shy too. I know just what you mean.

Posted by: Senka Aug 28 2008, 05:24 PM

For good and neutral person exepting TN. Because TN character don't want to interfere

Posted by: Ankhesenpaaten Aug 28 2008, 09:28 PM

That makes sense. He is a paladin after all and a TN wouldn't interfere as you said. I'm not as good at thorough knowledge of alignments as I should be but I like to play CN and CG a lot. But right now I'm trying out NE just for something a little different.

But the fact that Keldorn is almost available I think I may just be a good girl for him!

Posted by: Senka Aug 30 2008, 11:20 AM

PC-Thief havn't any chances too

Posted by: irenicus Aug 30 2008, 05:02 PM

Oh
I usually have a fighter at lawful good is that ok?



also

progress?

Posted by: Senka Aug 30 2008, 06:29 PM

Yes. And you havn't be ugly, stupid and simple There are some demands for stats

Posted by: irenicus Aug 30 2008, 07:45 PM

NOOOO!!!!!!

-squeals-

I can be stupid

but lifes not worth living if I can't be beautiful - (quote from howls moving castle)

XD

SHADOW KEEPER IS TEH SMEX!

Posted by: Ankhesenpaaten Aug 30 2008, 11:17 PM

I also assume there are racial restrictions. After all if Keldorn will kill Viconia out of pure racism he probably wouldn't be wild about a half-orc or a dwarf.
But I usually play elf, human, or half-elf.

It's okay irenicus! We'll both pounce on him at the same time (the moment he is released into our eager clutches) and he'll love every moment of it!!!

Posted by: irenicus Aug 31 2008, 06:24 AM

you know

that COMPLETELY reminded me of the time I got a little tipsy at college and we where playing Dungeons and Dragons and I randomly said

me: My bard rapes your paladin
george: ...you can't do that
me: MY BARD RAPES YOUR PALADIN ROLL FOR IT!
george: -rolls-
me: HA! A ONE! WIN!
peter: ...you can't rape the willing my dear -pats me on the head-


XD At my college I am a midget sooo XD I get picked on a lot


but aye! I shall jumpeth upon keldorn teh moment release is in the air!!! -squeal-


I usually play an elf

though wouldnt that cause conflict for keldorn?

its like aragon - arwen


aragon = mortal

arwen = not so mortal

that or I entirely missed the point of that film XD




but moving on ^____^;;


I can see him loving an elf, because they are fair and talented (sing, dance) and the fact she is able to fight or whatever talent she has... druidsm, barbariansm ectect

i can see an attraction

but with an ELF I can see this whole

"I love her but... i will die soon and leave her alone "



however my mum pointed at me and yelled "GOLDDIGGA!"

to which I froze in shock and she carried on washing up


mothers have these....very....very odd habits don't you find?

Posted by: Senka Aug 31 2008, 10:16 AM

Yes. I strongly doubt Keldorn will deal with other races. But Viconia... you will see...

You will see...

Posted by: irenicus Sep 7 2008, 08:21 AM

Torment is ebil

I ban torment -sniffles-

-runs around in circles- I can't wait to play it :K

rawr

Posted by: Kii Oct 5 2008, 07:56 AM

Hey, I've just got a question about the 'Keldorn won't romance a thief' thing.

I think I saw it on another forum, maybe about Ajantis or Anomen or some other paladin guy, that they wouldn't romance a thief either, and it just got me thinking; I nearly always play a thief in BG2, 'cause I can't live without the lockpicking aspect, heh, so I like defending their rights

So anyway, it occured to me that if Keldorn was willing to romance a Bhaalspawn, child of a God of murder, then wouldn't he be able to ignore the whole 'thieving' aspect? If not, couldn't there be someway around that, like 'I steal from the rich and give to the poor' kind of deal, or even a way for the thief to corrupt him or something (there is a side-quest in BG2 about corrupted paladins, so I know it can happen, heh.)

If not, I'm kewl with that, I was just rambling on; my real question is actually something like; "Why is it paladins don't like thieves?" Does it have something to do with the 'honor' concept? Any ideas? Cause I'm confused now.

Umm, one last thing, I'm gonna apologise about this question and let you know I'm not complaining, just curious. I'm not very fond of paladins, don't ya know... I love thieves, halflings and odities, heh.

- Kii

Posted by: Senka Oct 5 2008, 09:39 AM

1. Keldorn doesn't love thieves
2. You have other thieves in BG2
3. If you not agree just will not play this mod

Posted by: jastey Oct 5 2008, 10:20 AM

Since Ajantis was mentioned, I would like to add to the "paladin romancing thief" question: Theoretically, I could imagine a PC with profession "thief" being nontheless good, giving the poor etc. Fact is, there is no way you can check that in the game, so I decided to exclude thieves completely. (Note, that Ajantis romances multi-class thieves, btw.) It's a principle thing: A paladin would walk into the the front door, even if he knows that he will be killed. He never would use the back entrance, or cheat, not even for the "good cause". So, a paladin and a thief as a couple just doesn't fit, regardless of the morals the thief might live on. Hope it makes sense.

Posted by: Senka Oct 5 2008, 10:46 AM

Exactly. Thanks for support, jastey!

Posted by: Kii Oct 5 2008, 12:14 PM

Hmm, that all makes sense, heh. Thanks for clearing that up; it was just something I'd been curious about, and it seemed like a good place to ask.

Sorry for mentioning Ajantis without any real proof of what I was saying. I was fairly sure it was either him or Anomen who disliked thieves also, so it's nice to know I was half right with the multi-thief thing, lol.

Thanks for solving that question anyway, and good luck with the mod/s.

- Kii

Posted by: jastey Oct 5 2008, 02:19 PM

I don't mind if Ajantis gets mentioned, not at all, since I am a real fan. (My "Note, that Ajantis..." wasn't meant patronizing, just to say that it's a way of romancing him even if being a thief.) But enough Ajantis-self promotion from my side now! Anomen doesn't have profession restrictions concerning his romance interest, afaik, since he is no paladin.
Good luck with the project, Senka!

Posted by: Ardanis Oct 5 2008, 08:08 PM

You could use reputation system even if it is a bit crappy in BG. Also theoretically it's possibly to track giving money to beggars say by raising RobinHood global's value.

Paladin and thief couple wouldn't work you think? I played Diablo2 as a Paladin and had a Rogue girl as a merc. They were perfect companions - I tanked mobs and archer shot them from a safe distance

Just voicing my opinion.

Posted by: irenicus Oct 11 2008, 11:04 PM

sooo

any news?